3-7 дена, а през какъв период от време обръща?

Няма никаква логика, поне по това което видях от ефемеридите. Ретро е от няколко дена до няколко седмици, всеки месец е различно. Поне аз не видях някаква последователност.

един интересен сайт....

http://www.dharma.lt/en.php/astrology/marks-on-the-body/
още от същия сайт

ето нещо интересно, което прочетох, но на което не съм сигурна дали да вярвам.... :unsure:

Месецът на раждане указва деня на благоприятната възможност. Вратите се отварят. Конкретният месец, в който душата идва във въплъщение, се определя от месеца, в който душата е излязла от въплъщение в предходния жизнен цикъл. Ако човек, например, е умрял в месеца, управляван от лъва, то той ще се завърне във въплъщение в същия знак, продължавайки нишката на опита оттам, откъдето е била прекъсната и започвайки с този тип енергии и специфични дадености, с които си е заминал, прибавяйки интелектуалните постижения и опита от миналото въплъщение. По такъв начин душата се запознава с качеството на енергията и природата на силата, с които й предстои да работи в настоящото въплъщение.

из книгата „Трактат за бялата магия” на Тибетеца

http://www.anesway.info/ank_tib0.php

един тест интересен.... :blink:

http://www.quizfarm.com/quizzes/Zodiac/obliviate00/which-zodiac-sign-are-you-most-like/

още...

http://www.astro.com/astro-databank/Main_Page

един тест интересен.... :blink:

http://www.quizfarm.com/quizzes/Zodiac/obliviate00/which-zodiac-sign-are-you-most-like/

този тест ми взе силите,ето резултата-Риби и Водолей на 1-во място,Скорпион на второ и т.н

http://www.quizfarm.com/run.php/QuizRunner

  не се отваря ?..е,аз помня..на 3-то място имам Стрелец
на четвърто Овен,после имах Лъв.
С Рибите и Водолея 98 %

аз имах..ето

You Scored as Cancer:

The artist, the homebody, the caretaker; patriotic (not necessarily in the typical sense), moody, deeply feeling, and regrettably manipulative at times, though generally very loving and expressive of the emotions: you most resemble the Zodiac sign of Cancer!

Aquarius: 63%
Cancer: 63%
Scorpio: 63%
Pisces: 56%
Virgo: 50%
Aries: 44%
Sagittarius: 44%
Taurus: 38%
Gemini: 38%
Capricorn: 31%
Leo: 25%
Libra: 19%

и на мен ми излезе доста водолейско, като се има предвид, че само един Юпитер имам там.... :blink:

странно е това с процентите-при мен започнаха от 98 %,Стрелците ми бяха на 88 %,а най-малко Лъвове-на 56-57 %.
После не ми показваха сходни знаtsи,с които имам проценти,по-долу от 50  :unsure:
Или теста ти показва 5-6 знака,на които приличаш според нещата,които си натискал ,а проtsентите не са толкова от значение.

Не мога да се самоопределя като Риба,въпреки,че има сходство някакво (и аз съм вълшебница и често страдам не по моя вина),но виж-с Водолей мога да се идентифицирам,както и Скорпион .

ами и аз мисля, че показва по-скоро коя енергия е преобладаваща, а за процентите и аз не знам.....
интересено е да се направи теста...
имаш ли струпвания на планети в доминиращите знаци или пък някактвърди аспекти към отделни планети в тези знаци....или нещо, което да ги направи доминиращи въпреки, че на пръв поглед не изглеждат такива...?

имаш ли струпвания на планети в доминиращите знаци или пък някактвърди аспекти към отделни планети в тези знаци....или нещо, което да ги направи доминиращи въпреки, че на пръв поглед не изглеждат такива...?

Слънцето,Марс и Меркурии са ми в 12 дом и са фокус на Тао-квадр. Положението им в 12 дом е единствената възможна причина   .Нептун ги квадратира. Той самия е краен диспозитор по dom.

Колкото до Водолея- заема 5 дом от натала и там е СЛВ. Уран е в 3 дом,след релокация на новото място съвпада с IC.
Винаги съм си била с  идеите   -от най-голямата глупост до някои добри попадения.

Скорпион-в натала е на трон,на К2 дом,съвпада с управител на Слънце и асцендент.В драконика съм с асц.Скорпион. Драмите ме обичат  :lol:  

за тези знаtsи го очаквах.Е,това с Рибите малко ме изненада,но мисля,че теста си заслужава  :blink:

ами ето ти нишката Нептун...краен диспозитор хич не е нещо за подценяване...сигурно от тук ти идва рибешкото.....и квадрата към него като сложиш, като напрегнат аспект ще дава тласък за постоянна проява на качествата на Нептун....дори и да не го осъзнаваш напълно....аз имам опозиция на Нептун към Слънцето за аспектите на Нептун казват, че са такива които е трудно да определиш точно...хлъзгави, мъгляви... :blink:
Уран на ИЦ си го знаеш, че е силна позиция......
и другото си го знаеш от къде идва...
 :blink:

при мен
Юпитер във Водолей прави квадрат към МЦ, Сатурн,Венера и възлите ... + това, че е във взаима рецепция с Уран......
синтетичния ми знак е Скорпион.....а другото ясно...СЛънце, Марс и Меркурий в Рак....

Имам една чуденка - есенциалните достойнства на планетите т.нар. афетика в Солар файър е по Птоломей, в Зет-а е по Уилям Лили. Има несъответствие между двете. Коя от двете системи във връзка с класическата астрология е за предпочитане ?

Май е въпрос на личен избор. Нямаше ли възможност за смяна в Солар Файър, що така помня.   

Цитат на: Lost Angel в Ноември 12, 2010, 03:26:11 am

Някой да знае сигнификаторите на шофирането на кола? Чудя се защо ме е страх да шофирам.

У 3ти, У 11 ти - превозни средства в лош аспект къв У1ви или Меркурий.

Аз пък се чудя отде ми дойде такъв мерак посред зима да се записвам на шофьорски курс .. направо ненормална работа   :unsure:  Сигурно е по линия на транзитен Уран / У 3 / на мидпойнта  :sun: / :mar:  ..   

ето нещо забавно 

Aries

An Aries will kill you for a matter of principle. And when he does, well, it will be in some contest of arms or wits, and the Aries will turn out to be undisputed master of whatever piece of cutlery is singing its way into your black heart. This will inevitably be an unpleasant surprise for you.

You will not have much time to talk your way out of being chopped up by some cutlass wielding Aries. They usually start by cutting off your ears, then your nose. Falling to your knees and begging for mercy will not work until after you lose a few body parts. Aries likes proof they are better, and nothing works better than seeing your ears on the ground. But after that, you have a good slim chance.

Aries will leave your segmented remains in a steaming, gory pile for the buzzards. Aries is rarely prosecuted for murder because of their original methods of dispatch and brazen methods. The police admire this sort of excellence and usually just throw up their hands and keep the evidence photos for office parties.

Taurus

A Taurus will kill you for all the traditional reasons: money, sex, and revenge. In this, they are predictable, which is good. Unfortunately, the average Taurus has unnatural reserves of strength in their bodies, which makes being strangled an unpleasant possibility. If you are unlucky, the Taurus you inspire to murder you will have some sort of military training. This will greatly reduce your chances of survival. Even the boy scout trained Taurus is an efficient killing machine. For some reason, the Air Force trained Taurus are the most lethal.

There is not much you can do to stop Taurus once he has decided to pull your arm out of the socket. Reason is futile. Threats of revenge will just make him angrier and make your last moments more painful. You have a slim hope with bribery, but, again, this could backfire and turn the swift murdering Taurus into a extended torture session with you and your money as the star attraction. There is something in the Taurus personality that is a pirate, and it is best left dormant.

Practical Taurus will use your steaming remains to make something beautiful. This usually means compost and bone meal for the garden. It appeals to their concept of universal order that something so vile (you) are now making strong stems and healthy leaves for the roses and carrots. Your scrotum will most likely be made into a tobacco pouch, and your giblets made into sandwiches for the homeless. Taurus is rarely punished for murder as there is rarely any evidence left, and they are generous to investigating detectives with Cuban cigars, wine and sandwiches. Raymond Burr is a Taurus.

Gemini

A Gemini will kill you for somehow tricking them. As Gemini are a very intellectually mobile sign, you probably will not know what you have done. It could be cheating at Scrabble, or trying to lose at Scrabble, or not cheating enough at Scrabble to give Gemini some competition because you always lose at Scrabble. As for method, Gemini will usually favor whatever technique or device they have last seen on Serial Killer Week on The Crime Channel. Ideally, Gemini would just give you some amusing, but cleverly erroneous driving directions that take you to some gang banger headquarters in a car the wrong color. Usually, Gemini just puts out a contract on your head, taking advantage of their extensive pen pal connections through their Prison Friends magazine subscription.

You can usually talk a Gemini into not having you killed. They find the idea of being Judge and Jury rather fun. This may backfire if they get a taste for it and become serial killers with you as a required prop in the psychodrama.

If you do die, you will likely end up in a landfill. Gemini inevitably ends up in prison for murder, too.

Cancer

Like all of the water signs, a Cancer will kill you for obscure emotional slights. They are very emotionally sensitive and not good communicators of their feelings, so you will usually not realize that they are planning to kill you. As for method, Cancer comes in two varieties … either they want you to die quickly and painlessly, or slowly and in great torment. Poisons figure prominently in their planning, as do some form of being sealed up or buried alive. If they are really angry, they will burst into tears and call you names as they shovel dirt onto your face.

Even the most inept wordsmith can talk his way out of being killed by a Cancer. A simple abject apology, with lots of tears and wailing, can work wonders. Emphasis should be on being sorry for hurting their feelings, and understanding how you slighted them, rather than talk of punishment or your right to live. Grovel and eat dirt.

Cancer likes to make a thoughtful shrine somewhere close to where your body is preserved in some way. They can visit and recall all the good times you shared together, and repress any negative memories of your cold blooded murder at their hands. Unless your mummified corpse is found some decades after the fact, Cancer will escape punishment. Generally, the police buy whatever flimsy excuses and cheap alibi Cancer dishes out. It is too much paperwork to prosecute, and besides, Cancer will provide a lifetime of premium coffee and home baked treats to the Detective lucky enough to hold your file.

Leo

A Leo will kill you for just being in the way. This is an easily predictable position in life, so your Leo enemies, though many, are not likely to get you by surprise. The Leo prefers some form of public slaying, preferably with an admiring crowd, which is, if you think about it, impractical. Just stay away from public places with the Leos you have humiliated and you should be fine.

It is hard to avoid death at the hands of a Leo once his fingers are around your windpipe. You are the villain, and there is not much you can do to save yourself. Pleading for mercy, or appeals to reason, or offers of money, or divine retribution just seem to make Leo more angry, and your death will take longer in the bargain. If you can act like a blubbering coward, this helps. Kissing the ground before their feet is a proven life saver.

Your body will be left to rot where it falls. Leo will get sent to prison, where he will do just fine, perhaps writing a novel and getting a university degree. Leo will not suffer much in prison, which is not much of a consolation.

Virgo

A Virgo will decide to kill you for being somehow unclean. As Virgo is a somewhat inscrutable sign, this concept of unclean varies from individual to individual. So, whatever you did will be a surprise. Being an Earth sign, Virgo likes to plan your murder, perhaps doing additional research and some experimentation. Virgos are expert users of poison and vicious animals. Expect to find Asbestos in your air conditioner, or a coral snake in your shower.

If you have your wits about you, you can play along with the whole denial thing Virgos have going on about their plans to kill you. Just deny that the scorpion in your shoe is an attempt on your life, but rather an amusing coincidence of nature. Be sure to laugh. Virgo finds it hard to bludgeon people who are laughing.

Virgo tends to get away with murder as it is almost impossible to prove that they did it. They do their homework well and most Detectives are too lazy to do the footwork to put the average Virgo behind bars.


Libra

A Libra will decide to kill you for being ‘unfair’, or worst of all, for disagreeing with them.. As Libra live in a rarefied ivory tower of obligation and rituals reminiscent of the Byzantine Empire, you are pretty much doomed to not live up to their standards. As for method of murder, Libra is certainly the most lethal in that they are the most practical when it comes to snuffing out living things. The Libra will select the most efficient method, and of all the signs, this is the most to be feared.

You can usually talk you way out of certain death at the hands of a Libra by groveling and admitting how wrong you were and how right they are. When your abject confession of the astounding truth of their logic is made clear, Libra is less likely to have you cast into the pit of lime. After all, you are one of the too few members of humanity who see reason, their reason, and now have more value then one of the grubby nay saying peasants.

If you do die at their hands, you will usually get a decent funeral. Libra is master of forgery, and a simple set of cooked death certificates is no problem for the flying pen of Libra. It will be a nice funeral, too. Much better than you deserve, you bum.

Scorpio

Poor Scorpio gets a bad reputation as some sort of serial killer. Actually, they just get caught the most, being emotional and abandoning reason and good crime craft when they go about snuffing enemies and rivals. A Scorpio, being an emotional water sign, will plot to kill you if you cheat him in a business deal, or you mess with someone he loves. Pretty mundane, when you think about it. Scorpios do favor some form of slow and painful method for killing, and they do like to watch. Ideally, they like to watch your face when they strangle you, but most Scorpios have a delicate constitution and don’t have the strength to match their burning will power for a good throttling. So, if you do face a homicidal Scorpio, he will usually have a gun, sometimes a crossbow. They will wound you first, then deliver some sort of speech.

During the speech is your time to save yourself. You have to convince the crossbow wielding Scorpio that you are getting what you deserve because you are scum. If you can convince the Scorpio that you are more miserable than they are, that your riches are empty pleasures, that sex is meaningless, that all your treasures are bitter, you just might escape your fate.

If you fail, you die. You will be left to rot. Scorpio inevitably ends up in prison, anyway, but they have a spiritual and intellectual rebirth. They become stronger and better in prison, which is not much of a consolation.


Sagittarius

This fire sign has an idealistic concept of rights and obligations so you are certain to offend them in some way. As most Sagittauri are some form of legal groupie, you can be assured that you will be barraged with Building code and Bylaw infractions as a warning that you have pissed off some Sag. If it turns ugly, expect to be framed. Sag is a master of framing people. So when you find the crime boss’s missing accounting ledger in your briefcase, along with a business card from the local FBI, you can expect a heavy knock on your door soon after. Sag really doesn’t like killing people, so putting them away in prison for life for a crime they did not commit is more their style. They get better at this as they get older and more experienced.

Sag rarely confronts his victims, unless he has some sort of religious background. You then must fall to your knees and play along. Guard your tongue and restrict yourself to pleas for mercy and confessions of unworthiness. Do not banter theological concepts with the Sag who holds your life in your hands … they may decide that you are a heretic. It will not go well for you.

Sag likes to dump the bodies of their victims in golf course water obstacles. They usually escape prison on legal technicalities, which encourages them.


Capricorn

Capricorns spend most of their time plotting to off pretty most everybody they know, so it is just a given that the Capricorns in your life will toy with having you put down at least once a month. What makes them move you into the active destruction bin is if you somehow thwart their ambition. Could be most anything. These earth signs like to plan things, and this is not good for you. When whatever well researched mechanism springs shut on your neck, there will not be much time for pleading for mercy.

If you are lucky, you may get some face time with Capricorn before he finishes you off. You must convince the Capricorn that you are somehow useful, that you have information or skills that will further his ambitions. This will not be easy, as they usually already know everything about you. Stalin was a Capricorn.

As part of their efficient planning, body disposal figures high up there. You will be rendered into hamburger, sausage, or hot dogs. For some reason, Capricorns like to keep teeth. If your Capricorn friend has any sort of collection of teeth, be careful … he is a serial killer. Capricorns rarely go to prison for a single caper. If they go down, it something big.

Aquarius

Aquarius rarely admits to himself that he is plotting murder, but still manages to dispatch a respectable number of victims anyway. Being a social air sign, Aquarius prefer to stalk people who offend their idealistic social beliefs … this may be the person who doesn’t sort his recycling bin, who smokes in public, or complains about taxes. So, you will not get much warning. Aquarians are not very sophisticated when it comes to murder methods. They like guns, and the political Aquarian will use either a pistol (if against gun control) or a shotgun (if for gun control).

Before you are murdered, the Aquarian just loves to have some sort of show trial, even if nobody else is there. This is your chance. Listen patiently to the crimes you have committed, and the horrible sentence decided upon the gun wielding Aquarian, acting as Judge and Jury. Now, you must agree with them and move the conversation towards re-habilitation. Promise anything, and make it grandiose and symbolic. Promise to work in a food bank, whatever. This just might save your skin.

If you are dead, the Aquarian will leave your shattered body where it is. Arrest and trial for the murderous Aquarian inevitably follows.

Pisces

As a water sign, Pisces puts up with more abuse and degradation than most others. This makes them great employees. Sometimes, something snaps in their minds, and they begin to fantasize about having you tortured to death. Mere murder is not an option for Pisces. They want you to suffer, suffer long and hard. Water, or liquids, or liquefied metals, figure strongly in the elaborate ritual murders that Pisces spend so much time day dreaming about at their assigned work stations.

You can elude certain death by coming up with some creative story of suffering and alienation that somehow outstrips their own experience. It better be good.

Your body will be sent to a watery grave, or dissolved in lime. Pisces inevitably gets away with murder, not realizing how much better they would feel if they were in prison, which is really a Pisces paradise.

http://www.astrologyweekly.com/forum/showthread.php?p=261970#post261970

Да , ама не....

малко инфо интересно...

Planetary Forces as Sexual Realities
Part 2: Jupiter, Saturn, Chiron, Uranus, Neptune & Pluto
© 2000 Antero Alli
Jupiter: Sex Without Guilt or Guilt Without Sex ?
Sometimes when natal Jupiter is activated, we seek out the non-committal sex of liaisons with the already married or unavailable, sex with emotionally immature (teenagers) and sex with anyone you don’t really care about. All these sexual experiences invariably expand your consciousness but only "via negativa," by negative example. Sometimes our conscience seeks out ethically challenging confrontations just to test itself. As our consciousness expands through these tests, it naturally creates more recognition of what we actually can care for. With enough consciousness expansion, conscience. As sex becomes more ethical, the beloved ceases to exist as an extension of oneself. Instead, the beloved is seen in his, or her, own light; what Martin Buber refers to as, "Thou." I’ve seen this occur when transiting Jupiter crosses the natal Descendant.
Sexy Saturn’s Holding Patterns
Saturn represents a coherency of psychological factors attempting to consolidate a way to manifest a life in the material world. The "material world," as used here, means all things possessing material properties that exist in time and space and are therefore subject to breaking down. The material world is a mess in this way. Defects abound; flaws surround us. The world is filled with things that go wrong, collapse and otherwise gather inertia and entropy. Saturn symbolizes that psychological muscle for asserting effort, structure and persistence of pressure to hold and to keep things together amidst a world committed to falling apart. When Saturn is a strong force in any relationship, there are obvious holding patterns. When someone else’s natal Saturn closely aspects your natal Sun, Moon, Mars or Venus, their holding patterns are acting on you in specific ways. Their saturnine pressures may be forging a cohesion in a part of your life that’s falling apart at the seams; you may even like it and, maybe, like it a lot.
These holding patterns can give you the feeling of being contained by your lover; this can be good or it can be very scary, depending on our needs. Often enough, harder Saturn aspects (squares, oppositions, conjunctions) between lovers can symbolize latent parent-child dynamics. Here gender is not as important as the ongoing exposure of immature, infantile need structures. One lover tends to play out the child aspect of their personality and the other, the adult or parent role.
Saturn sex tests the integrity and staying power of any relationship. The lover who plays out the parental role may find him or herself holding the other to more responsibility than that person previously expressed. If one lover’s Saturn conjuncts or opposes the other’s Sun, the Sun person’s self-commitment and selfhood are tested. Sometime this holding pattern can be very exciting and hot, as when natal Mars is involved. Sometimes Saturn can make us feel very secure, especially when the Moon is involved. Other times, these same saturnine holding patterns can manifest as control trips and boundary disputes. With more responsibility, these same power trips can be played out on purpose in the sexual arena of ritual sadomasochism.
Saturn as Dominatrix/Master
With mutual consent, unconscious power-tripping can be transformed into power sex by the playful dramatization of scenarios involving various postures of trusting dominance and willing submission. Traditional S/M (sadomasochist) sex culture incorporates whips, chains, leathers and other sex toys for ritualized power sex games. And, power sex doesn’t exist without a dominatrix or master, and a slave. The masochistic slave and dominatrix, or master, agree on the saturnine game plans. Whether these introduce literal harnesses, chains and handcuffs or vocal commands, the "master" seeks to increase the "slave’s" experience of pleasure, pressure, intensified sensation and then, pain, inside a climate of total trust. This threshold of pain is relative to each slave and so the element of trust is paramount for respecting limitations.
Though traditional S/M tribal sex culture relies on a vast array of ritual paraphernalia, none of it is necessary for power sex between consenting adults. The key element, is the trust between players and the ritual structure itself, which emerges with open expression of personal needs, fantasies and desires. Some of us have a greater need for being acted on by the saturnine holding pattern of another; others need to be the ones holding that power that acts on the other. As this sexual give-and-take process is openly explored, trust is built alongside a greater sexual self-knowledge and a truer understanding of the beloved’s sexual needs. Unfortunately, too many S/M rituals are acted out unconsciously whenever lovers avoid disclosing their actual power needs: to be dominated &/or, to dominate.
Domestic violence demonstrates a horrific power sex game gone wrong as a result of communication breakdowns and the frustration of real needs. Unconscious S/M relationships are often doomed to tragic closure by mutual ignorance of power dynamics. Perhaps this kind of ignorance poisoned the roots of O.J. and Nicole Simpson’s marriage. Was there an undercurrent of sexual dominance and submission? I think so. Why else would so many Americans sit mesmerized by the media coverage? The violence? Maybe. A hidden, underlying subtext of power sex? More likely.
Reverse the Roles, Save the Marriage
When Mars, Moon, Sun and Venus are aspecting Saturn in the composite charts between lovers, it can indicate latent "power sex" dynamics in the relationship; latent because Saturn requires time to work itself out. Often enough, the more volatile and passionate relationships require a shared structure to continually stabilize itself. The greater the power dynamic, the more creative outlets are required to bypass self-destruction. Without outlets, the incumbent pressures mount. With no place to go, they can only implode and/or explode. As lovers grow more aware of their shared power struggles-by accepting them and structuring creative outlets for their safer expression-they can integrate difficult yet rewarding Saturn karma; perhaps work out at the gym together or take long walks or join a volleyball team or, play many, many sets of tennis.
Saturn’s traditional exaltation in Libra suggests how these holding patters ultimately seek equilibrium (Libra) to restabilize. If either lover over identifies and fixates on one side of the dominant/submissive polarity, balance is lost. Identifying with one side of yourself creates a one-sided self-image and a kind of rigidity of ego. In any given relationship where dominant-submissive patterns prevail, it’s only a matter of time before roles get fixed and tensions start mounting. The passively identified grow more demure and meek; the dominantly identified, more aggressive and cruel. Sooner or later, these pressures force confrontations, outbursts and explosions. Violence erupts. If this is happening in your love life, perhaps you are ready for a little role reversal.
The purpose of role reversal is to balance relationship energies and to create opportunities to see through the other’s eyes. This doesn’t mean the men wear bras and wash dishes but it might. Nor does it mean women wear the pants and take out the garbage but it might. If power-sex lovers cannot agree to walk in each other’s shoes once in a while, their relationship dynamic remains rigid and unstable. If domestic role reversals don’t work, try the bedroom. Let the old master become the new slave; the old slave, the new master. Excitement for role reversals can sometimes restore equilibrium.
When lovers share strong Saturn aspects, their sex life and the relationship itself may require a consensual, or mutually agreed upon, structure to continue functioning. This kind of relationship is more like a mutually understood arrangement, than any attempt to realize or fantasize an ideal. This kind of effort requires considerable maturity, if only to get beyond our precious but mechanically conditioned ideals, if only to address the existing real needs of consenting adults.
realities associated with the astrological forces of the Sun on out to and including Saturn represent an ego-based, or self-centered, approach to sexual satisfaction. The ego-personality develops through these stages and explores those sexual experiences furthering its own needs to know and express itself. Transpersonal sex, symbolized by Chiron, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto, occurs when you are aroused by electrical, dreamtime and planetary forces expressing greater intentions than personal gratification. Forces are transpersonal when they originate beyond ego and become sexual by using the medium of your sexuality for expressing their intentions.
Transpersonal Sex and Chirotic Reactions
The transpersonal forces of astrology begin with the comet Chiron, which orbits between Saturn and Uranus. Chirotic (rhymes with erotic) sex arouses the sleeping serpent of kundalini; the enlivened spinal cord undulating with pulsating electrical charge. The study of chiropractics provides a valuable metaphor to understanding Chiron. Chiropractors manipulate the interactions between spinal/skeletal systems (SATURN) and the various electrical Nervous Systems (URANUS). Chiron mediates between Saturn’s structural integrity and Uranus’ white hot electrical power. When lovers are connected chirotically-by transit and/or aspect-they enter a tantric initiation of the third point. When sexual energies between lovers escalate beyond what either lover can contain, that energy either disperses or is redirected to serve a third point of awareness beyond each ego. Chirotic sex releases an enveloping sense of animal magnetism, exploding the ego beyond previous self-concepts and beliefs. Transpersonal sex shocks ego past itself for information and new ways of responding to energies greater than itself.
Uranus, Brain Pleasure & Sex Magick
What the Chiron sparks, Uranus electrifies. Electric sex hums throughout the subtle medium of our Central Nervous System (CNS), igniting the astral lightbody (aura & chakras). Psychic or electric sex occurs through physical love, but can also happen without touching. When the CNS is energetically on fire, sensuality transmutes into the supersensual brain pleasure of neurological orgasm. As the CNS becomes self-aware, lovers respond to the warm, glowing rushes of neuro-electronic signals racing within, around and between them.
This electrical energy is enjoyed in extended moments of telepathy, clairvoyance, synchronicity and psychic abilities previously unimagined. Electric sex can also erupt, as if by accident. In the instance of spontaneous and wildly uninhibited physical sex, signals traverse between the brain and the rest of the body with less resistance and more speed. Electrical energy-more heat and more light-races through the muscles, giving the CNS more freedom of expression. Very Uranus. When lovers desire higher levels of electrical intimacy, what can possibly stop them from turning up the heat and the light? Ego. When either or both lovers need to slow things down, they often start acting out previously neurotic habits of self-preoccupation and the flow slows down.
In this way, ego acts as a kind of emergency brake for minimizing pleasure too intense to contain. How much ecstasy can one allow? When our capacity for ecstasy is overwhelmed, it’s natural and even necessary to fixate on something as familiar, banal and mundane as our personal problems or to project these onto our lover. When lovers rise to the occasion of electric sex with less ego and more intention, they enter the esoteric traditions of sex magick. Occult lodges such as the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn, the O.T.O. and their numerous offshoots practice their various ritual technologies for raising kundalini through electrical sex practices. One long-term effect of sex magick is the radical transformation of the CNS. In some sex magick adepts this change is so remarkable that, when compared to the majority of human beings, they seem like alien space beings. There’s probably good reason why these more esoteric magickal ritual disciplines remain esoteric or hidden from mainstream view. I suspect it’s because sex magick isn’t for everybody.
Dreamtime Lovers of Neptune
Neptune symbolizes the numinous webwork of individual, collective and planetary dreambodies making up what aboriginal people call dreamtime. Also woven into this ethereal design are glittering strands of glamour, illusion, hallucination, madness, and the human poetic genius of the Collective Imagination and the Music of the Spheres. The Neptune archetype beckons us from realms so far beyond human imagination-so utterly alien and extraterrestrial-that we must stretch our imaginations just to catch fleeting glimpses.
Neptune governs our weirdest out-of-body experiences, soul travel and those sexual experiences inducing various forms of astral projection. Neptune also symbolizes the dream lover archetype in its truest and most delusional forms. Neptune transits can also trigger our wildest, most delusional love affairs yielding no hope for manifesting any real or lasting intimacy in the material world. Neptune can be very severe and slippery that way, combining our highest hopes and dreams with our most devastating disillusionments. Neptune also governs enlightenment.
This is sex between dreambodies; the sexual escapades of our night dreams, as well as daytime sexual fantasies. Dreambody sex can also occur without actually fucking. Lovers under the influence of Neptune can be enchanted by merely holding hands and getting lost in dreamy glances. The potency of the dreambody provides multidimensionality to sexual experience. Neptunian sex undermines ego, or self-image, by dissolving self-created boundaries and subjecting us to indelible impressions of all-encompassing unity.
Neptune transits to natal Venus, Moon or Mercury can coincide with love affairs that begin and maintain themselves almost entirely by psychic projection via what Jung calls "anima/animus transference." Amidst and "anima attack," a man can become dogmatically convinced he has met "the woman of his dreams" whether or not the actual flesh-and-blood outside woman cares for him at all. He may have met the woman of his dreams, but only as she was projected out of his own psyche and onto the outside woman. These delusions collapse when the real woman fails to live up to the man’s unrealistic demands on her to act lie a goddess.
In the near future, novel forms of illusory Neptunian sex will become popular as pornography industries incorporate sophisticated virtual reality (VR) immersion software. Consumers will be promised virtual sex "beyond their wildest dreams"; many people will choose corporate-simulations of sex over the real thing. Milder versions of this same scenario are happening right now on online community bulletin boards, CD-ROM interactive sex games and chatroom sexual fantasy role-playing.
Genetic, Plutonic Planetary Sex
If Pluto symbolizes an overtone of Mars (Mars as the physical passion of intercourse), then it may represent the invisible processes of conception. Plutonic sex erupts whenever the genetic conduits, or the DNA matrix, between lovers are engaged. In its most literal expression, these lovers are overwhelmed by a strong mutual desire to procreate. Beyond the procreation contracts between lovers, less literal modes of plutonic sex do not reproduce offspring yet contribute significantly to furthering the evolutionary goals of DNA. Under some Pluto transits involving conjunctions and oppositions-especially to the Moon, Venus, Mars, and Sun-powerful transformative sexual encounters can be triggered that have little or nothing to do with falling in love, getting married, having babies or buying furniture. These experiences may also defy the usual categories of "hot, casual sex," "one-night stands," "affairs" and any other concept our mind struggles to pigeonhole the event.
Earth Surrender Rites
Sometimes, the planet (yes, our planet Earth) arranges for meetings between certain individuals for mysterious purposes: "earth surrender rites". The lovers involved in these mysteries may feel a pull of fate towards each other. Or, a kind of "persona meltdown" where personal pretenses dissolve and leave the lovers in a terribly vulnerable, essence-to-essence fusion experience. Without any apparent choice in the matter, the heat and light of bio-psychic energies rapidly escalate between them. Many images surface to consciousness, as their minds grapple with categories and behaviors to match the immediately confounding reality. No image fits; many explode, as if into thin air.
Realizing all this, the lovers either run from each other or stay together and surrender to the experience. If they surrender, new information emerges about why they met and what they must do with these intense transformative energies. With continual surrender, the lovers dawn on the solemn revelation that the Earth Herself has arranged their meeting and that the energies evoked are not for personal gratification but for feeding Her. They may still make love, but do so as part of a larger cosmic ceremony involving a third partner, who happens to be planet Earth; a planetary menage-a-trois. Each ceremony differs depending on the personal resistance and excitements, culturally-conditioned programs and intuitive sensibilities of the lovers. For more details on this, please read my book, The Akashic Record Player: A Non-Stop Geomantic Conspiracy.
Obsessive Sex: The Dark Side of Pluto
The dark side of Plutonic sex is obsessive sex. Sex gone wrong; gone out of control in a destructive way. In and of itself, obsession is not bad or evil; nor is being out of control. Losing control in the name of creation remains one of the highest aims of Art. Obsessions reveals where you are intuitively and directly linked to your greatest sources of energy. Obsessions express where all your energy is wrapped up. When obsessed, you are passionately concentrated into one area that generates significant heat and force. When the consequences of that obsession produce destructive effects, you have lost control in the name of destruction and not creation.
Natal Pluto can articulate any given chart’s point of greatest obsession and where that person goes for their most direct, intuitive connection with life energies. First House Plutos tend to self-obsess as much as Seventh House Plutos other-obsess in their pursuit of direct contact with life force. Sixth House Plutos tend to work-obsess, as Ninth House Plutos develop an obsession around their visions and beliefs. Natal Pluto can reveal clues as to where and how sexual obsession also occurs; I leave that to your imagination..

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Страшничко, да! Можем само да гадаем. Слънце в 10-ти дом дава тежки житейски отговорности, а понякога и ранна загуба на бащата. На човек му се налага да бъде глава на семейство от рано. Луната като управител на 4-ти и позиционирана в 8-ми в падение в Скорпион може да даде много силна връзка с майката. Квадратурата на светилата дава много труден характер. При това Слънцето е в заточение, а Луната в падение. Това дава нечовешка амбиция - познавам такива хора. Единият е високоплатен неврохирург, семеен, който ходи всяка сутрин да се къпе и да пие кафе у майка си и така му започва деня.

Не само, имаме и Сатурн на ДЦ, и Луна в Скорпи, не просто в 8ми, а на К8... И 12ти с Юпи и Уран, Марс и Слънце са в съвпад, водолейски, но все пак - в 10ти, а Плуто е в съвпад с СЛВ в 9ти... Изобщо всичко е от солено, по-солено и пре-под-правенко в картата... АЦ Овен и Слънце в 10ти съвпад Марс Водолей би било предостатъчно интересно... :lol:

Съвпадът на Слънце с Марс дава спортна натура, смела, честна и доблестна. Това е мъжки аспект, който е добре да има един мъж в картата си. Ако е жена, ще притежава "Ин-ски" качества на характера - инициативност, предприемчивост, съзидателност. Сатурн в 7-ми е силен в екзалтация във Везни и в приятелски знак със Слънцето и Марс. Прави човека изключително консервативен, праволинеен и целеустремен, както и отговорен в конвенционалните взаимоотношения (онези формалните, за пред обществото).